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[INTERVIEW] From Self Sabotage to Self Mastery... How to Get Out of Your Own Way with Anna Lawrence
In this episode, we cover:
- The Truth Behind Self Sabotage
- Saboteurs Types
- How to Find Out Your Top Saboteurs
- How to Gain Self Mastery in Just 15 Minutes a Day
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Can you believe they have the audacity? Welcome to the have the Audacity podcast. I'm your host, jacey Lawlin. I'm on a mission to empower women like you to live audaciously. What does it mean to live audaciously, you ask? Living audaciously means you're no longer available for living your life based on someone else's agenda, standards or boundaries. It's time to activate your power, use your voice and create the life you're meant to live. So the next time someone asks, can you believe she had the audacity, you can look at them and say, yeah, I did. Hey, audacious Human, I'm so glad that you're here for today's episode and I am super excited for the guests that I'm bringing to you today. I can't wait to introduce you to Anna Lawrence. She is a mindset and empowerment coach and she really, really knows a lot about saboteurs and like self-sabotage, and I was like you have to come on and learn about this, like the listeners need to know, you need to know about this. Um, I knew about some of them, but I learned about several that I didn't know, types that I didn't know, and it's just so helpful and I'm really excited for this. But before we jump in to all of the things we're going to talk about, the truth behind self-sabotage, the different saboteur types, how you find out your top saboteurs, and how Anna herself and how she's helped her clients gain self-mastery in this in just 15 minutes a day. So here's a little bit about her before we jump in, though.
Speaker 1:Anna Lawrence is a mindset empowerment coach. She's a primordial sound meditation teacher. She's a dog mom and a fellow Swifty. Her mission is to empower women to wake up every day and decide to live a life that they are immensely proud of. Anna's identified as a total perfectionist for most of her life and in her mid-20s, realized that her perfectionism wasn't serving her. She tried repeatedly to just let it go, ironically, from a place of control. This was her aha moment, when she decided that embracing imperfection was true surrender. Anna has found so much power and freedom in creating her dream life as a direct result of conscious and purposeful actions, like choosing to find a gift and opportunity in all challenges and waking up and having the best day on purpose. In her free time, anna likes to go to the dog park, loves to ski and dance around in her living room daily. She's an avid traveler and has visited 30 countries and she did van life for a year.
Speaker 1:I think this is all like really wanted you to really get to know Anna on a personal level, and it's really going to shine through. She is very passionate about what she talks about and truly is one of those people whose energy just comes through. So, without further ado, let's dive on into today's episode. Hey, audacious Human, I'm super excited for you to be here today for today's guest. I get to introduce you to Anna Lawrence. Anna, thank you so much for being on the have the Audacity podcast.
Speaker 2:It's my pleasure. I know we've been talking about it for a while, so I'm glad it's finally happening.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so can you tell the listener a little bit about who you are, what it is that you do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely so. My name is Anna Lawrence. I'm a mindset and empowerment coach. I love helping women who feel like their life is just really busy, that their schedule is super packed and they want to make a change mindset and in your life, which then ripples into your relationships, your career, your finances, your health and your wellbeing.
Speaker 2:And I think so often, like we have this idea and we're told to, that change takes a long time and that it takes a lot of commitment and a lot of hard work. You know hours of reading self-help books, podcasts, and you know retreats and coaches and all of these things, and it takes years of commitment and, while there is truth in staying committed and showing up every day continued in the long run to see and like maintain the results, I personally don't think that that is how it has to happen all the time, and so my goal is to really just kind of knock down the barrier to entry of like being able to change your life and change your mindset in a really, really quick way. For women who have tried over and over and over again but have found that their schedule is just so hectic that they don't have time to sit down and read all of the books and do all the things that we're told that we have to do to actually see change. And my approach, the approach that I use in my coaching, is actually like 15 minutes a day, that's. It can be in a chunk, it can be like dispersed throughout the day and you know one to two minute increments, but you're meeting yourself where you're at in your busy schedule and with this consistent 15 minute of day, 15 minute practice every single day for a period of six to eight weeks, we actually see changes in the brain structure based on like MRI screening.
Speaker 2:So we see the place of like love, compassion, empathy, kindness that part of the brain I think it's the right side of the brain New neural pathways are created. We see change in that structure. And then our the brain I think it's the right side of the brain New neural pathways are created. We see change in that structure. And then our survival brain, where our saboteurs live, which we're going to talk about a little bit, where we self-sabotage, the inner critic. That part of the brain actually starts to atrophy and we can see that through MRI screening. So this work is really really profound, really potent and you can really see change very quickly.
Speaker 1:So I love it and, like just the whole, you could get this change in 15 minutes a day. It doesn't, because we are sold this narrative that it is a long time and huge amount of commitment. And if you are really busy and in that state you're like I can't do this and then, like you know, the feeling stuck in the disempowered. So I am curious, how did you get into this? Like, how did you find yourself in this world?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So in the coaching world, uh was honestly like a product of COVID. I was ski instructing during, like right before COVID happened Um and I guess it's March 14th now, so this is like four years ago, I think yesterday that the world shut down um and I was ski instructing in steamboat springs and, um, the ski resort closed, um lost my job and I had been traveling internationally the whole year prior, so I didn't qualify for unemployment. So I had to find a job out of covid, um and I actually got hired with noom, the weight loss health coaching company. So I started working for them April of 2020. And that was my introduction into coaching. So I was with them for almost a year and I knew I wanted more direct like more personal, one-on-one coaching and interactions. I think like my highest caseload with Noom was like 400 clients and I was just like I. That's just the kind of like impact I mean it was. I was spread really thin, the impact was wide, but it was very surface level and I wanted to go super deep.
Speaker 2:So, um three years ago, in 2021, in the spring, I started my own coaching business.
Speaker 2:I went through training with Chopra, so I'm a certified meditation teacher, certified teacher of Ayurveda and then a total well-being coach with Chopra, so really kind of took the more like holistic, full body approach to coaching and like seeing each person as a unique individual and like seeing each person as a unique individual.
Speaker 2:And then last year at this time, one of my best friends in town, who's also a coach and also a teacher she introduced me to the Positive Intelligence program. There's a grant for coaches and so we went through that together and it was absolutely life-changing for me. And at the end of the program they were like if you want to share this with your clients, you can join us and you get access to all of the technologies. Um, and you got to share this amazing work with your clients. And I was like a hundred percent, yes, so easy. Um, so this work has been tested, um, with hundreds of thousands of people, ceos, teams, um, and people have seen so much like positive impact with this approach. So that's kind of my whole journey and like how I became a coach and how I actually found this specific type of coaching that I do and integrate, and with my clients.
Speaker 1:I like thank you for sharing your story and I feel like it's so, it's so interesting to hear people's stories that I know for the listener it's like you're going to have a lot of pivots and like just keep embracing it.
Speaker 1:And I feel like it's so interesting to hear people's stories and I know for the listener it's like you're going to have a lot of pivots and just keep embracing it, and I feel like it's very important to just talk about like hey, it's going to change and that's okay. And if we talk to you in a year from now you're going to be like oh, I'm doing this a little different. It's just the nature of being human and so I really love that. For the listener listening who's like okay, cool, what is positive intelligence? I've never heard of this before. Can you explain a little bit about what that?
Speaker 2:is, yeah, absolutely so. When we grow up, we go to school, right, we focus on how to strengthen our physical fitness. We've got gym class, we have sports that we're encouraged to be in all through school, and then we have schools that focuses on our IQ, our knowledge. So we take classes, we take tests, we take exams to strengthen that part of our brain. But the one big thing that's missing is like our mental and emotional mindset work right. That's a vast thing that's missing.
Speaker 2:And we all get to adulthood and we're like how do I handle these emotions? What do I do with them? Like, we're told? You know, men are like repress these, don't cry, don't do these things. And you know women like you're too emotional, you're too sensitive, and a big part of that is because we weren't taught how to understand these emotions and how to really tap in and tune in to how we respond to triggers and challenges. So positive intelligence is our ability to navigate through life's challenges with a more positive mindset and low levels of stress.
Speaker 2:You know so many things in our day-to-day life now are triggers for us. You know traffic, work, deadlines, relationships, you know, you name it. There's so many things that we like set these expectations of like we should be doing this and we're constantly being triggered into fight or flight and triggered into stress, and we are, without even trying, the survival brain, our inner critic, our negative self-talk, that is what we tend to go to, and so that is the part of our brain that's actually really, really strong, and so we don't even have to try, for the most part, to default to worst case scenario and poor me, victim mindset. Of course this is happening. Of course my flight's delayed. I'm stuck in the airport for another hour. This is the worst thing that could possibly happen, Rather than, on the other hand, right, we want to.
Speaker 2:We need to start training ourselves to see the gift and the opportunity and these challenges Like okay, my flight got delayed, Wow, like I have the opportunity to spend more time with the people that I love. Or, oh, I have an extra hour in my day that I can get the work done that I needed to get done. Or, oh, my gosh, you know, I've got this amazing credit card that gets me lounge access. Like I get to spend more time in the lounge. Like with this. Like free, amazing food and you know, whatever. And so we have the possibility to like strengthen this part of our brain that sees the gift and the opportunity in challenges big and small in life.
Speaker 1:So I love that and I love to like just the permission of like the listener listening who's like wow, I've never, I've never thought like that. Like I always go like okay, well, don't feel shame in it. We're not taught at all how to get out of your survival brain and be. Look for the positive in it, yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's, you know, it's, it's a muscle, and a lot of times people, like one of my mentors, is like there's a war on happy people. You know, and I've, I've even had people last year I had I was asked two or three times if I was on drugs because I was like so euphorically, like, oh my God, life is so amazing and, to be completely honest, I think two out of the three of those was right before I went to the Taylor Swift concert. But, like I think so many people are just like, are you faking it? Like you're, you're full of it? This is not real and I think that's a barrier to entry as well. It's like we create this story that like they can't actually be that happy, that is not attainable for anybody and so it's bs.
Speaker 2:And so this is actually something my therapist mentioned to me that the other day. He was like we believe the stories that we tell ourselves and oftentimes we're like this story is it. It's written in stone, there's no way of changing it, and that's actually not true. What we can't change is the past. We can't change what's happening or the present. We can't change the events that are happening. What we can change is our thoughts about it, the story that we create about it and the meaning that we create about it, and typically when we're like, oh my gosh, this happened and this happened, this happened, we're in a victim mindset and these are our saboteurs that are lying to us, telling us all of these, feeding us, all of these things that are keeping us stuck. And so a saboteur is the way we self-sabotage.
Speaker 2:So this goes a little bit deeper into what positive intelligence is in this positive intelligence operating system, and so the main saboteur that everybody has, that everybody can resonate with, is the judge. We judge ourselves, we judge other people, we judge situations. That's the main saboteur, and the judge has nine accomplice saboteurs that many of you will probably resonate with. Let's see if I can remember these off the top of my head. We have the avoider, the controller, the hyper achiever, the hyper rational, hyper vigilant, the stickler, the perfectionist, the restless, the victim oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:There's one more that I'm blanking, but you guys get the idea. These are the ways that we self-sabotage. Maybe you know you're a perfectionist or you have this need to control people in situations and that's impacting your mental, physical, emotional well-being, your relationships, your career, and so part of what we do in this deep dive in positive intelligence is we recognize where we're self-sabotaging and we bring about a level of awareness so that we can shift out of the self-sabotage into right, this other part of our brain where Sage lives. This is like our inner Jedi, um, it's like the angel on our shoulder, with love, kindness, compassion, empathy, um, and we carry ourselves through these challenges, um in a more loving way.
Speaker 1:I, I love this and so I feel like self-sabotage is you? Like people hear about it? It's not like I don't want to say like a buzzword, but like it is well known if you kind of get into the personal development space. But what I didn't know was like all the different types and even too like I just want to say like I, you know to listener, listening, met with you and dove into and we can talk about like how you do that, like dive into, like what were my top saboteurs. And I kind of knew, going in what I was thinking, I was like, okay, yeah, that's probably going to be there.
Speaker 1:But I had a level of self-awareness from like years of therapy and, you know, doing this work too, I was like I didn't realize it was still there or like on a different level. And so if you're listening to this and you're like, okay, cool, like I've been doing work for a while now, like it's fine, I know, and I'm like, but do you, because it just hits like a new level there, and do you feel like that's pretty common, like somebody will come to work with you and they're like, oh, yeah, I know this and like I've dealt with it, and then they realize it's sneaking up in a different way.
Speaker 2:Yes, a hundred percent, and I'll give an example from me as well. So my two top saboteurs are the perfectionist and the controller. And I I've been in the personal development space for over two decades and I'm I'm almost 30. So that's most of my life. My first personal growth and development class I think I need to ask my dad, but I think I was like six or seven. So I've been in this space for a long time.
Speaker 2:It was something my dad, you know, really prioritized, um, with our family and with him, and and I've really followed in his footsteps in that way, um and so, because I've had, had, I had such a level of awareness of like, perfectionism and control, I got really, really good at tricking myself into like, okay, I don't need to be perfect, or like, okay, I've surrendered, but I would be like this surrender this time I've done this so many times the surrender is going to be perfect. This time I'm going to do it right. And then I was like, oh my god, I had this moment where I was just like everything, just like clicked, and I was like I have been fooling myself so hard, I have been trying, I've been surrendering to get something. And that's not surrender, that's control, that's manipulation. Um, and so yeah, a hundred percent, like I, after this podcast interview, I am meeting with someone to do something similar to what we did the Saboteur Discovery Call. So they took their quiz, they sent me a picture of it and they were like I feel so called out and I also feel so heard, and I was like that is such a beautiful way of describing it.
Speaker 2:Um, I kind of like to say, like you know, you're getting called forward um to like bring about this awareness and to like just dive deep and to learn. Um, so yeah, feeling called out and feeling so heard, I'm like, oh, wow, that's I love that.
Speaker 1:That is like such a great way to sum it up, and so we kind of touched on this a little bit here. You mentioned it. What if somebody is listening to this, they're like okay, anna, I really want to know, like how am I getting in my own way, like how am I sabotaging myself? And you're talking about these like discovery calls. What does that look like? What would that look like working with you? Discovery calls, what?
Speaker 2:does that look like? What would that look like working with you? Yeah, so the first thing that I invite you to do is take the saboteur quiz. This is free. You can head over to my Instagram, which I think will be posted, and send me a message and I can send it over to you. So it's super short. I think it takes less than 10 minutes, um, and it gives you a comprehensive result of your top saboteurs.
Speaker 2:Um, so after that, the next step that you can do is, um, book a saboteur discovery call with me. Um, so these are so potent. Uh, they're $33 for the rest of March, um, and we'll spend 30 to 45 minutes going over your assessments. Um, we'll really be honing in on your top two to three saboteurs that are really prevalent in your life, um, and we're really going to hone in on, like, what the characteristics are, what the strengths are, what the challenges are.
Speaker 2:Um, because, really, your saboteurs, they come from your strengths. So this is like your greatest strengths they turn into your greatest weaknesses when they're overused or abused. So we really want to lean into and focus and highlight the strengths of the controller, of the perfectionist. Keep the strengths and leave the rest. So this call is really just kind of like open up the doors to start understanding, like how you can start utilizing the strengths of these saboteurs to your benefit and leave the rest. And everybody that I've done these with have just been like wow, this is so eye-opening, like I knew this but I didn't really get it. Like I had the awareness but I didn't really have the tools of like what do I do with it?
Speaker 1:So this really kind of kicks off that process of like this is what you can start to do, to actually like make changes and kick these guys out of the driver's seat so that you can come back into control from your sage perspective, from the love, empathy, empathy, compassion, kindness, right, your inner jedi I I love how you said this of just like there are in touching on the strengths, because that was big for me like hear about self-sabotaging and you always view it through a negative lens and it was like no, there actually is like some strengths in here, but you know, like you said, it's getting them out of the driver's seat and like, okay, no, you're going to go to the backseat. Like cool, you're in the car, awesome, but like I'm in control.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a hundred percent, cause they're, in a way, these saboteurs are trying to protect you, like going into, like this idea of parts work that's kind of getting to be pretty big. In therapy, like you know, I've done parts work on like my perfectionist part right, she's scared that like something's going to go wrong and I'm not going to be safe. And so it's this idea of like this practice of being like, okay, I love you and I know that you're here to support me, even though you're not, you're not really helping me, so like you can come along, but I need you to not do anything or not say anything. Like I'm in control, I trust that everything's going to be safe, like we're going to be good, um, and kind of having that like that space of like you're here for a reason, um, and it's discerning the, it's discerning the reason why you're here. And so another part of these saboteurs is that they tell us lies and oftentimes people are like so I'll give the example of the hyperachiever.
Speaker 2:The hyperachiever is somebody who is constantly going for the next promotion, like constantly, can't be happy with what they have because they don't feel like they're worthy without these continued accolades and acknowledgements from other people, from their work, from material possessions, and so they set these goals and the second they hit the goal. The goal is not good enough anymore and they have to get to the next one. The lie that this saboteur tells them is that I'm motivating you, I'm helping you be successful. Without me you wouldn't do any, you'd be on the couch, you'd be miserable, you'd be lazy, you wouldn't be getting anything done. So people are like but I actually need this to be successful, to be motivated. And that's not true, right, because that is coming from a place of self-criticism, self-judgment, negative self-talk of you're not good enough, you're not working hard enough, you're not worthy of love.
Speaker 2:If you don't do X, y and Z right, we can still motivate ourselves from a place of, like the sage perspective. It's going to be much more like loving, blameless discernment is what we call it. So you're not blaming yourself, you're not going into guilt or shame. You know it's understanding that you do need to show up and you do need to continue to work hard and push yourself, but not to the point that you're completely breaking yourself down to the point of being miserable.
Speaker 2:So motivation from your saboteur is like you have a big heavy block that you're pushing and you're making progress, but you're using so much of your energy to push, push, push. Motivation from your sage is like an energetic pull. You're not using any energy, it's flowing beautifully, it's just like you know, it's just like coming with you, it's like magnetic and it's easy and it's effortless and it actually gets you farther than the other one because you're not using as much energy. So I love that, that perspective and being able to really be like nope, that's a lie that the saboteur is telling you. You can still be successful, you can still be motivated coming from your sage.
Speaker 1:I love that and to like even you were explaining again and we've had this conversation, that was one of my top saboteurs and I was like still feeling called out, like I just see myself so much in it and you're just like, well, like on this one society kind of celebrates that 100% and you're just like so many people are walking around not aware that that's like a saboteur in you know running the show and that you know you can look at it and reframe it in a different way. So, yeah, people are like, oh, this is normal and that's's like one of your things. Like, oh, I've always been this way and that's how I felt like in this conversation. I was like, oh yeah, I mean like I'm sitting here like staring at a wall of degrees because like what's the next thing? What's the next thing? What's the next thing? And it was like literally like okay, is this actually helped? Like how can we come at this? Like use motivation in a different way? And so like it's been very freeing in the sense of you know, just to share my personal experience with it, it has been more of okay, do I want to do this and why?
Speaker 1:And like being slower to setting goals and not immediately agreeing to something, cause I feel like at least my experience with like high achieving is a little bit of shiny object syndrome. You're like, oh, okay, I want to. High achieving is a little bit of shiny object syndrome. You're like, oh okay, I want to do that. Oh, I can do that too. Like great, perfect.
Speaker 1:And it's really like building in a pause of like okay, you're not, we're not taking the exit ramp, you know, because, like I'm in control. But going back to the car analogy, you know we're not just jumping off the exit ramp, chasing after something else. Like I'm in control, like do we actually want to? Like we can exit? Like two miles down the road, you know, and like take a pause and like, do we want this? Why do we want this? What's the motivation? And like having some breathing and not immediately like jump, accomplish the thing, okay, what's next? That's been my experience and that's been the power in learning about this and like gaining that awareness of it is just you're like, oh, okay, you do feel very in control and not trying to keep up with something else yeah, and thank you for sharing your perspective and like your experience with it.
Speaker 2:I think you shared it beautifully like this checking in with yourself and like what do I want? And it's also a reminder of like I'm good enough without all of that stuff. I am worthy without all of that stuff. And so I think, like when we're in the fast lane of just like go, go, go, like the next thing, the next thing, the next thing, you know you're unconscious, you're out of it. You know you're kind of on autopilot and you're not checking in with your body, you're not checking in with your mind. Like you know, maybe it's a way to like push down and repress the thoughts that are coming up, maybe from another saboteur that you don't want to hear.
Speaker 2:And so, jc, by like what you were saying of like slowing down and like checking in with myself and like I don't want to hear, and so, jc, by like what you were saying of like slowing down and like checking in with myself and like I don't constantly needing to be exit, exiting, like I have choice, I have power in this, I have control, and slowing down, starting to cruise while you're checking in with yourself and you're asking yourself how does this feel, you know what's coming up for me, and then like, if you do have that motivation of like, wow, I'm really passionate about that, I do want to pursue that. You know that it's coming from a place of want and desire and it's not going to change how you feel about yourself or about your worthiness, because you know that you're already worthy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You don't need external things to remind you or to prove to you that you're worthy, or for you to prove to other people that you're worthy.
Speaker 1:And I just love this whole conversation because it is very counterintuitive to you know, at least speaking to like the United States culture, like as a as a whole. It's very going against the grain. But is, I guess, if you're listening to this and you're feeling called like to this and interested in it, it's like, is what you're doing right now serving you? Like are you extremely happy, or is there a piece of you that's like this could be better and it's leaning into that? So if the listener is listening to this and like, okay, I want to take this quiz, I want to see, I want to book a discovery call with you, like what could I do right now? Like what's one thing that you suggest, like start doing, like to start switching over into this, and like gaining more self-awareness and that, like what do you suggest? The starting point is like a tactical thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally, something really, really simple. I have an alarm set on my phone for nine o'clock every morning so that alarm goes off and that triggers me to set a timer for an hour, and every time the timer goes off I reset it, but I take a minute or two minutes and I check in with myself. So this is actually like part of the program that I do in my coaching. You get access to the positive intelligence app, which is amazing. It's like gamified you can do go to like the mental fitness gym, like the brain gym in the app, and it tracks your progress. It like shows the battery, like your mental battery. Is it charged, is it like on empty? Um, it shows how many like PQ reps you've done PQ positive intelligence. A PQ rep is essentially just dropping into one of your five senses um for 10 seconds, okay, um, so you can notice. You can do this while you're working too, which is really cool. Um, so you can notice how your fingers feel on the keyboard. You can. When you're walking to the bathroom, you can notice how your feet feel on the ground, and I recommend setting an alarm at nine in the morning and then setting an hour long timer that repeats every hour to remind you to take a moment, just one minute, and check in. Close your eyes, focus on your breathing, notice, like how you know it feels your chest rising and falling. Listen to the sounds in your environment. Like right now I have my heater going, so like I can hear my heater, I can hear the cars on the road, I can hear the sound of my breathing. That is super, super simple, super, super tactical and it's just this reminder. Like the point is to pattern, interrupt. The point is to stop what you're doing. If you're in, like, the middle of a chaotic day and you're like I have all these emails to write, I have this deadline, you need to do it even more than stop what you're doing. It's one minute and that's what I love about this whole approach is that, like you know, it's doable to fit into your busy schedule.
Speaker 2:So I would say, just like, start off with mindfulness. When you're sitting down to eat your meal, notice, like, look at the colors on the plate, notice the smells, notice how it feels like in your mouth when you're chewing it. You know that's help your digestion, according to ayurveda, like when we're present with our food. We actually digest better if we're listening to music, if we're watching tv, if we're in conflict, if we're reading, our mind is focused on something else, so our mind isn't saying, hey, we need to be focusing on digesting our food right now. So by being present with your food, you're actually strengthening your digestion, you're strengthening your immune system, you're strengthening the connections that you have with the people that you're with right. You're connecting with over your meal, with your family, on a much deeper level. So it's such a simple thing, but it goes so far. It's so potent and impactful. So, yeah, I would say that's a beautiful place to get started. If you're really wanting to like, jump the gun now and dive in.
Speaker 1:I really love that. I have two final questions that I want to ask that I ask all my guests on have the audacity is. The first one is is have the audacity podcast. So what does the phrase have the audacity mean to you in your life?
Speaker 2:Having the audacity to like, show up and create the life that you know that you're capable of, and no longer being a byproduct of circumstance, no longer letting life happen to you and being in this like victim mindset. Again, we're human. Even when you start doing this work, you're going to have those moments of being the victim. I have them consistently, still right, but I have the awareness of like oh okay, I just went into victimhood, I want to own up, take responsibility for that and shift out into sage, and it's a beautiful transition.
Speaker 2:I used to have the most heinous adult temper tantrums I would lose my shit, I couldn't handle it and you know, I just like let life happen to me. And so, you know, having the audacity to like say that's not it for me anymore. I'm not going to do that anymore. I'm actually going to show up and do the hard thing, step outside of my comfort zone to get what I see other people having and I'm jealous of and maybe have made them wrong for it in the past. But like, really it just came. They're just a mirror for me of what I actually want and so I'm going to be brave and I'm going to show up and, you know, invest in myself and, you know, actually commit to seeing change.
Speaker 1:I love that, and you articulated that so well and you know I love like the transparency and just I mean even just a little nugget of you know I maybe made other people wrong for something in the past, but really that was a mirror reflection of me and being okay, like I'm allowed to change it, like oh, I know I said like I didn't want that and I judged them for that in the past, but like I actually do want that, I just didn't think it was obtainable for me and so I love that permission slip there. Um, the last question that I have is some podcasts have like hype up playlists and things like spotify playlists and stuff. I have made this self-care ebook guide of like every single guest go to self-care normalizing it looks different for everybody and sometimes, if you're just trying to figure out like get into like what do I actually want, it's kind of nice to see this list of like all these different things to kind of try out. So what is your go-to?
Speaker 2:self-care? That's a good question. Oh man, I would say my go-to self-care is taking a bath and scrolling on TikTok while I take it back. I always this is so funny I always bring a book with me to the bath and like nine out of 10 times I don't ever read it. I love just like lounging in the bath scrolling on TikTok. That's like a good like. Let go kind of feel good, feel good time for me.
Speaker 1:So what are you? What are you scrolling? Are you scrolling like funny, Are you?
Speaker 2:scrolling. Like what are you scrolling? To be completely honest, 90% of my for you page is taylor swift, um, so I'm usually like looking up the surprise songs that she had, um, now that, like she's, she's over in asia and so the concerts were like at like four in the morning, yes, again, and see like what surprise songs she did and um, their updates and all the people who just like go and deep into their conspiracy theories. I'm like a big. I'm a big swifty. I love, I love taylor swift. I um saw her for the first time when I was 15, um, and she actually came to my section of the venue and like walked down and she gave me a hug. She told me I was pretty. I was like I'm so jealous.
Speaker 2:I mean, I love it for you, but oh, yeah, yeah, so definitely on the on the Taylor Swift side of TikTok.
Speaker 1:I mean I get it, I am a huge as well, and my I'm not on TikTok, but my IG like feed is just all Taylor Swift and now the Chiefs. Because like, if Taylor Swift's your algorithm, then now the chiefs. Because like, if taylor swift's your algorithm, then, like, the chiefs are also there. So now I like no random football facts that I didn't know before, but I mean it's fine, um, but yeah, so I love, I love that and it's just a permission to like just do something that you enjoy yeah, totally.
Speaker 2:We don't always have to be working on ourselves. In fact, that's exhausting and that's like the perfectionist saboteur creeping in, saying that you have to be always reading, always listening to a podcast. Like always doing X, Y and Z. Like sometimes when I go on my walks I listen to music and I'm like I don't want to find a podcast, so giving yourself that permission as well.
Speaker 1:I love that. Well, thank you so much for coming on. This was such a great conversation, and how can the listener connect with you?
Speaker 2:Yes, so you can find me on Instagram at Anna Lawrence, underscore coaching. That is my main space. I have a TikTok and I kind of the perfectionist in me was like you need to do all the platforms and I feel like I was just spreading myself a little bit too thin. So I've really just kind of been more focusing on Instagram right now. But you can find me on TikTok as well, at Anna Lawrence Coaching.
Speaker 1:I love that. Thank you so much again. This was such a great conversation and I will link everything in the show notes below so it's easy to find. So thank you again. Thank you so much. Okay, is she not super amazing? I really hope that you vibed with this learned something.
Speaker 1:I know that Anna and myself would both love to hear what your takeaways were. I tagged her Instagram handle in the show notes and, if you love this episode, take a screenshot, share it on Instagram. Tag both of us with your takeaway. We would love to hear. Or, if you don't want to share it publicly, dm. Anna and myself would love to hear from you. I linked her saboteur quiz and I talked about an episode that I did and had a meeting with her about it, so I linked that in the show notes. And also her quick fix mindset masterclass free replay. I linked it in the show notes as well, so you can check out different ways to learn more about this, but I can't wait to hear from you.
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Speaker 1:Second, share this episode with somebody right now that you know needs to hear it, or take a screenshot. Tag me on social media and let me know what you loved about this episode. I love getting to connect with you. And the third last thing I have is I cannot let you go without sending you off into the rest of your day with the reminder that I want you to always remember you are worthy, you have value, you get to take up space in this world simply because you exist. Don't let anyone, including yourself, convince you otherwise, and if that idea or vision for your life is in you, it is for you. Living with this phrase in mind in today's world is such a truly audacious thing for you to do. So until the next time I talk to you, remember, have the audacity.
